![]() There's no snappy retort about "turtles all the way down" in these passages however. If any one should be asked, what is the subject wherein colour or weight inheres, he would have nothing to say, but the solid extended parts and if he were demanded, what is it that solidity and extension adhere in, he would not be in a much better case than the Indian before mentioned who, saying that the world was supported by a great elephant, was asked what the elephant rested on to which his answer was- a great tortoise: but being again pressed to know what gave support to the broad-backed tortoise, replied-something, he knew not what. ![]() ![]() And he that inquired might have taken it for as good an answer from an Indian philosopher,- that substance, without knowing what it is, is that which supports the earth, as we take it for a sufficient answer and good doctrine from our European philosophers,- that substance, without knowing what it is, is that which supports accidents. Had the poor Indian philosopher (who imagined that the earth also wanted something to bear it up) but thought of this word substance, he needed not to have been at the trouble to find an elephant to support it, and a tortoise to support his elephant: the word substance would have done it effectually. This in turn seems to be an echo of comments by John Locke in An Essay Concerning Human Understanding (1690), Book II, Chapter XIII, Section 19: 1904), at 472 reprinted as chapter III of The Meaning of Truth, he wrote:īut is this not the globe, the elephant and the tortoise over again? Must not something end by supporting itself?. In "Humanism and Truth", Mind 13 (N.S.): 457 (Oct. William James did write at least once about turtles and elephants. In Hawking's version however, it wasĪ well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell) once gave a public lecture on astronomy. Stephen Hawking tells more or less the same story at the beginning of A Brief History Of Time. (Haj) Ross, Constraints on Variables in Syntax (published by Ablex in about 1979), but I haven't been able to verify it. I have been told that the story appeared in the preface to a dissertation written at MIT in about 1969, by J. What source does Hendrickson give? The earliest thing I've found so far is in Bernard Nietschmann, "When the Turtle Collapses, the World Ends," Natural History, 83(6):34 (June-July 1974). I've been looking for the earliest version of this "turtles all the way down" story. I recently went back to Northrend to try for the mount again and finally got him this time in a Howling Fjord pool. After burning out on Northrend fishing, I visited Dalaran for the Coin Master achievement, and continued competing in the weekly Master Angler of Stranglethorn until I picked up the hook, the pole and all three rare fish prizes. To be fair, I didn't fish continuously for the sea turtle, as the cycle of casting and clicking got super-boring after a while. I was killed numerous times by Orcas, twice by "friendly" crabs I had accidentally right-clicked, and several times by various humanoids during an ill-fated venture from Howling Fjord to the Tuskar villages. ![]() I stuck to the three Howling Fjord pools near the docks, two of which regenerate fairly quickly. When 3.1 came out, I immediately cleaned out my inventory and took the blimp to Northrend for an extended fishing trip. My fishing is maxed out so im not sure on the lv you need to be to fish the school.Ĭomment by 380910I finally picked up the Sea Turtle mount after months of trying, at level 51. When u get back to your statring position, new school will have spawned. I started at the 1st school and worked my way around the pool clockwise. It isnt that big of a lake but the Musselback school spawn very quick. There is a nice lake there called "Lake Kum'uya". I logged in today and headed off to Borean Tundra. "Fishing pools, or Schools of Fish, are location objects found in different bodies of water in WoW that have a significance to the fishing profession." (from wiki) all i could find was this little nugget of info. However i looked a bit deeper for info in here and on wowwiki. i spent about 4 hours sunday with nothing. I started fishing open water lakes / pool but NOT the sea in Northrend. I was a bit confused as to where to fish.
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